ARCO's Abolitionists - A Vegan Forum

It looks like artificially grown meat could be something we will see within our life times. Assuming it would come at similar ( or reduced ) environmental or health costs, how do you feel about using it. For yourself? For others? Ethical problems?

I'm hoping artificially grown meat will have reduced environmental and health costs, but even if those costs are the same I am all for it. It could speed up solving many animal ethics issues by centuries.

I wouldn't use it myself. A taste and health thing. Even when I ate meat, I never liked the taste much. I was never "juicy steak" person, preferring instead well done, heavily seasoned and processed meats. I enjoy the tastes and textures of a low processed high carb vegan diet. I also feel better on it.

I am against it because you have to use cells from animals to grow it. Also I read that it is not one time you need the cells, but you have to use also new cells to get the best results.
It is good if it will reduce the animals needed for food and also it will help to reduce the impact on environment,but still animals are used for food. So I will always say that it is not ok to use animals.
And also I think animal protein is not good for your health and because of all the health problems in this society there are a lot of testing on animals because they think it will help to solve the problems.

In my opinion the key to a better healthier life is to stop eating meat and all other animal products. It is also the key to a better world.

Besides that I think the people who are now get profit from exploiting animals for food don't like it that they are developing an alternative. They will do a lot to stop the research. It is like oil companies don't want to have vehicles who doesn't need the oil etcetera.

I was wondering about the use of cells myself. To my understanding, cells only have a limited life-cycle built into their DNA (from telomeres if I'm not mistaken). So you would have to renew the source. Which would still mean animals in captivity. And if they're in captivity I'm sure they too would be used for food after their "purpose" has been used.

However, I think I'm still for it, only if the above conditions are unnecessary. I wouldn't use it though. But just for the fact it could save animal's lives, I support it.

I'd be for it if they stopped using animals all together.. but I'm sure artificial meat is just as bad for you as meat from the actual animals and it may cause more health problems like cancer or something. Genetically engineered shit is just bad for you.

Vegangsta! wrote:I'd be for it if they stopped using animals all together.. but I'm sure artificial meat is just as bad for you as meat from the actual animals and it may cause more health problems like cancer or something. Genetically engineered shit is just bad for you.

But that situation isn't any different than what is going on right now, but what would be different is that instead of billions of animals being killed every year in the US ( after living in factory farm conditions ), we would have only thousands of animals being kept as cell donors. That is a big gain for billions of lives. Additionally, the animals kept alive as cell donors would likely be treated better, even if their health was not necessary as there would be far fewer of them.

If they were still using the animals for profit, i'm sure they would treat them just as bad as they are now. I'm still against using animals for food.. but having less animals used for food is a start.

I don't agree.

Under the current system it is more profitable to ignore a livestock animal's health. Under an artificially grown meat system, with very few animals kept as cell donors it might be of financial interest to keep those animals happy and healthy. Unhealthy animal might mean unhealthy cells, shitty artificial meat, decreased sales and less money. Significant money might also be spent developing pedigree cell donor animals that produce a "better" ( for humans ) muscle cell. Those animals would not be cheap like one of the billions of livestock.

Some people will switch over, but they're the ones on the fringes right now. The near-veggies. Even some of the happy meat people will refuse to eat artificial meat, because of perceived taste differences and health concerns (!).

I suppose they'd be doing all sorts of tests on other animals to see if they got sick from consuming vast quantities of various types of the artificial meats.

Oh well, I don't care how they spend their money, they can develop it. But I suspect it's going to be problematic somehow for us to actually support it. I know that doesn't make a whole lot of sense so far, but I have this feeling...

and as for me, I really did enjoy eating meat, but I wouldn't be able to get past the realization that for so long, it represented SO MUCH SUFFERING. I couldn't eat it.

What a horrible idea! Vegetables are fine but you can also easily buy chorizo and fake chicken (Redwood make fabulous fake chicken). Soya steaks properly cooked are very very good. You soak them, then marinade them in plenty of lemon, finely chopped garlic and a bit of salt. Finally you fry them in vegan margarine. If you want a special touch you can join soya cream at the end. You can cook them using the same recipes people use when cooking meat steaks.
If there are so many varieties on the market why grow artificial meat. The idea makes me nauseous.
Isabel