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The change of the word vegetarian and it's effects on AR+

Postby virre » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:11 am

(Oh my that is a long subject and I wanted it even longer).

Latley I have noticed more people saying "I'm a vegetarian" and then eating gelatin and rennet. (Most of those that does that eats fish too... but not all).

Then when one person who acctualy is vegetarian is trying to eat true vegetarian food he get things which is not as they take for granted that vegetarians is the first one.

I have started to wonder if this shift in words will do anything to the definition of the word vegan... it feels like the people that really are ovo-lacto vegetarians have to reinvoke them self with a new word anyway.

(Of course the obvious thing todo is to acctualy get the lacto-ovo vegetarian to think over why they are not vegans and take that discusion)
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Re: The change of the word vegetarian and it's effects on AR+

Postby mountainvegan » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:33 pm

I see only two meaningful categories: vegan and non-vegan. No matter what reason one uses, e.g. avoidance of unnecessary suffering or the elimination of exploitation, veganism is the only practice that reduces arbitrariness to a reasonable standard.
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Re: The change of the word vegetarian and it's effects on AR+

Postby panthera » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:14 am

mountainvegan wrote:I see only two meaningful categories: vegan and non-vegan. No matter what reason one uses, e.g. avoidance of unnecessary suffering or the elimination of exploitation, veganism is the only practice that reduces arbitrariness to a reasonable standard.


Very powerfully put. (mountainvegan is super-sharp. :ugeek: )
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Re: The change of the word vegetarian and it's effects on AR+

Postby virre » Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:31 am

Yes so it is,

but we do not live isolated from the rest of the world. And when the society around you starts redefining words, and is tending to try to change what the word vegan means... Then it is an issue.
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Re: The change of the word vegetarian and it's effects on AR+

Postby mountainvegan » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:05 pm

Thanks panthera.

It doesn't so much matter what society does to the word "vegetarian" since it already connotes animal exploitation. I'd like it if the whole notion of "vegetarian" went away.

It does matter if the meaning of "vegan" is changed. We should always speak as loudly and clearly as possible to keep that meaning at least as strict as The Vegan Society defines it.
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Re: The change of the word vegetarian and it's effects on AR+

Postby Luis » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:05 am

Vegetarianism is a corrupt concept that means really nothing. I think vegans must not use that term. Since 1944 Veganism has a totally coherent moral meaning, ethics, lifestyle.
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